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许多感谢纳什蒙大拿的翻译, 和弗雷德 Tepes 的字幕:Transcript:0:02 “Because of the refugees, and because costs explode for them,0:07 we had eight inquiries, from people who want to leave Germany for those reasons.”0:13 Germans flee from refugees to Hungary.0:16 Does it seem absurd? But it is reality.0:19 Good evening with Report München.0:22 This border fence is symbolic for the politics of0:25 Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. He relies on fences0:28 against refugees and tough-handed politics.0:31 Since Orbán came to power in 2010, many Hungarians left their country,0:34 for economic reasons, and out of protest against0:37 a right-wing conservative administration.0:40 Ironically, it is now exactly that kind of administration0:43 that has appeal to more and more Germans.0:46 Anna Klühspies and Anna Tillak present:0:52 In just a few moments the Kirsch couple will close the deal of a lifetime.0:56 In this room, in a village, somewhere south of Plattensee.1:00 “Doris, I congratulate you, and you, yes.”1:04 “Is it my house or your house?”1:07 Now the two Germans are the proud owners of a small house.1:11 There’s no way they’d ever want to go back to Germany.1:15 “I’m afraid now in Germany.”1:18 “You are afraid?” “Yes.”1:21 “What are you afraid of?” “They’re all young men, that are coming in now!”1:25 “It’s not like anyone is against when families come with kids and such;1:29 everybody can understand that. But these — what we even see on TV —1:33 we haven’t been back to Germany in a while.1:37 Everything one sees on TV recently, there are only…1:41 so many young men, a few families with kids, and all these young men.”1:45 Their friends in Germany would like to leave as well.1:48 But not all of them have been able to save up enough money, they say.1:53 On their way to the new house. Observations from the car.1:58 “There between the trees, coming right out of there…”2:01 “But they could also be Hungarian Muslims, there, they’re walking along now.”2:07 “But they rather look like they are Indian or something.”2:14 “There just are so few Muslims in Hungary, I have to add,2:18 maybe 1%, maybe 2%, but very very few.”2:21 Here they believe they are safe.2:27 Hungary. For a very long time, it has been a favored vacation spot and a2:31 favored adopted country for many Germans. The population is predominantly Christian.2:34 There are only a few migrants. But the people are also poorer2:37 than in the neighboring Western states.2:40 Away from the clean promenades, another picture often shows itself.2:45 Many buildings are empty, houses are sold underpriced by brokers,2:50 most of the customers are German-speaking.2:54 They come because of the cheap real estate, says the broker Ottmar Heide.2:58 But since September they have come predominantly for another reason.3:02 “Because of the refugees, and because costs are exploding for them,3:06 we had eight inquiries, from those who want to leave Germany for those reasons.”3:11 On Facebook as well, there are regular lively discussions3:14 about emigration to Hungary.3:17 Real estate offices around Lake Balaton confirm this trend to us.3:23 On our way to the next house listing, the broker Heide again will meet discontented Germans.3:30 Michael Müller. He too, wants to leave Germany forever.3:34 “An original old Hungarian farmhouse…”3:37 In the past few months he supported the AfD, but it wasn’t enough for him anymore.3:40 He wants to give up his job as computer scientist,3:43 so that he can emigrate to Hungary even sooner.3:46 “In my home city, when I go through the downtown at noon,3:51 I am barely able to hear one sentence in correct German, that to me is proof enough3:55 that even small towns now are completely infiltrated by foreigners.”4:01 Michael Müller is talking about his homeland, North Rhine-Westphalia.4:05 His opinion: Integration has failed.4:10 “This is a plus point for you that there are so few refugees here?”4:15 “Yes, I find that totally all right, yes, it’s a plus point.”4:18 The waving of the refugees through Hungary4:24 of the ones who were already here, they didn’t have any real emergency,4:27 I mean, it wasn’t like that there was a real catastrophe, the people weren’t starving to death;4:31 they just wanted to continue.” The reality: Last September, for days thousands of refugees4:36 were stranded in the heart of the Hungarian capital city,4:39 beneath human dignity. These are pictures that no one is supposed to see4:43 anymore in Hungary in the future. Minister President Viktor Orbán builds a fence,4:47 seals up his country, and a majority of the population stands behind him.4:53 “Muslim people do not belong to us, period. Hungary is a Catholic country,4:59 and we can’t unite [with Islam], and it just does not belong to us, end of discussion.”5:04 …Says Eva. She is Hungarian, her partner is Austrian, the neighbors Germans.5:10 Concerned citizens are building themselves their very own special paradise here.5:15 Simone and Lothar Luther help with the renovation.5:18 They just moved two months ago to Lake Balaton from North Hessen.5:21 Because of the climate, the lake, and…5:24 “Because there are no refugees here.5:27 And because the police are present here.5:30 The people feel — we’ve had conversations with locals — they feel great!5:35 The police drive through town two-three times at night, it’s terrific.”5:44 For the move, Simone Lothar has even quit her job as a hairstylist.5:48 She reminds herself of her fears back in Germany.5:52 “I wanted to work at night, but he said, ‘Don’t do it, it’s not good,5:56 we don’t know what kind of people they are.’6:00 I don’t want to be unfair to anyone, but it is foreign, and it makes you panic6:04 to think of all that’s gonna come, when all those mosques are being built…”6:08 We drive to Budapest. We show our recording to the political scientist Péter Krekó.6:12 He is an expert on right-wing populism in Europe.6:18 “I was very surprised, I didn’t know that this even exists, I know that there are6:26 Swedes who emigrate, and they were all affiliated with politics in one way or another.”6:33 Krekó warns that the easy explanations of these populists6:38 could stoke the fears of normal citizens.6:41 “With their populist approaches they destroy the trust in established institutions.6:47 But without those a democracy cannot operate at all.”6:52 Lake Balaton. For many Germans it’s apparently6:55 the last bastion of the Christian West.6:58 This is where Germans flee from refugees.7:03 “Do you know any refugees yourself?”7:06 “That man from Sri Lanka.” “Oh yeah, him, yes.”7:11 “You can tell them.”7:15 “It’s not that we are against them all.” “No, no, we invited them to our house for coffee, and we are not racist.”7:19 “But it was a long time ago.”7:23 In the evening, after all the house viewing.7:36 Michael Müller has made a decision.7:39 “Yes we have positively decided to move here, yes. That is all.”7:44 It is common knowledge that one should never stop travelers…成绩单:0:02 ""由于难民, 并且, 因为费用为他们爆炸,0:07 我们有八个查询, 来自那些出于这些原因想离开德国的人

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